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HP 12C Platinum Financial Calculator

HP 12C Platinum Financial Calculator

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HP 12c Platinum is a faster, enhanced version of the industry-leading 12c calculator designed for the financial professional who demands more. Enjoy both RPN and Algebraic modes of entry, keystroke programming with four times more memory for up to 400 steps and more-than 130 built-in functions. There are now advanced editing features like the new "Undo" and "Backspace" buttons. Plus six times faster speeds for calculating TVM, loan payments, interest rates, standard deviation and more. Work more efficiently with memory for up to 80 cash flows. Ideal for real estate, finance, accounting, economics and business work. The easy-to-use layout and stylish look with metal back plate suitable for engraving make it a welcome addition to any desktop or a great gift idea. Permitted for use on the CFP and CFA Certification Exams, and GARP FRM Exam. You also get the reassurance of award-winning HP support available to you 24-hours a day, as well as an enhanced website with tutorials, educational resources and downloads.

Features:

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Robust and versatile financial calculator

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Over 120 built-in functions for business, finance, mathematics, and statistics, including date calculations

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Efficient data entry using RPN

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Small size; easy to take anywhere

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Long battery life

Product Details:

Product Length:	10.5 inches
Product Width:	7.5 inches
Product Height:	1.75 inches
Product Weight:	1.25 pounds
Package Length:	10.16 inches
Package Width:	7.24 inches
Package Height:	1.73 inches
Package Weight:	1.28 pounds
Average Customer Rating:	based on 171 reviews

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Average Customer Review: 4.0

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147 of 155 found the following review helpful:

A worthy successor of the classic HP12c is finally unleashedDec 14, 2006
By Let it Be "Alan"
The HP12c Platinum 25th Anniversary Edition (HP12cPAE) is the 2006 special commemorative limited edition model and the second official upgrade of the original HP12C. The HP12c Platinum (HP12cP version 1.0) has been improved since its released in 2003. Although the HP12cPAE is based on the HP12cP version 2.0,it would has its historical place as the 4th model in the HP12C lineage since 1981 and may be unofficially designated as HP12c Platinum version 3.0.

FIRST LOOK AND FEEL. HP has showcased this upgrade with an overall quality in both the looks and feel department. The "new" retro-styling and colours of the HP12cPAE closely resembles the exterior of the silver plated HP11C, a made in the 1980s HP scientific calculator cousin of the gold HP12C. As a bonus, HP had made this a special purchase for the fans and new owners by including a nice black 25th anniversary "PDA" style leather pouch with the HP12cPAE. The overall construction is firm and solid and the improved keypad buttons has a very nice tactile feel indeed.For better viewing, users can now adjust the contrast of the clear LCD display screen.

WHAT'S NEW? Since the HP12cPAE is faithfully and conservatively built on the time-proven functionality of the HP12C, existing users should not expect to see any major hardware and software improvements. However,it is evident that HP had listened to its customers negative feedback on its first half hearted attempt to upgrade the HP12C with the slow HP12cP version 1.0 released in 2004. HP had dutifully responded to its customers negative feedback on the HP12cP v1.0 and and demostrated their wholehearted effort with the HP12cPAE by incorporating all necessary enhancements which could be possibly squeezed into the package to expand the capabilities of the classic HP12C.

HARDWARE ENHANCEMENTS. The current upgrade is 6 times faster than the HP12C as claimed and probably 10 times faster than its slow early release HP12cP when performing certain TVM calculations. The improved speed is now up to par with cheaper products from its competitors. This upgrade has four times more data storage memory which is sufficient for input of up to 80 cashflows or 400 programming steps. With the HP12cPAE, advanced users have a more powerful tool which would enable them to store more keystroke programs into their HP12cPAE, to perform routine complex and customized financial calculations by executing the programs stored in its memory.

THE HP12C NICHE. Potential new users of HP12C series of financial calculators should be aware that the proven form factor of the HP12cPAE is quite a novelty product to get used to. Despite the age of its design, if new users are looking for the unique RPN input method and user programming capability, the HP12C series and the HP17B2 series are the only choices available.

AGAINST THE COMPETITION. It is difficult to compare the user programmable HP12C series against offerings by other manufacturers, simply because no HP rivals has ever managed to produce an equivalent product to challenge the HP12C series. Advanced "power" users of financial calculators would appreciate that complex financial calculation, such as the Black-Scholes European Option Pricing Model formula could be keystroke programmed and stored into any HP12C series. HP12C, HP12cP (versions 1.0 & 2.0) and HP12cPAE users could recall the program from memory to perform routine computations repeatedly.

WHO SHOULD BUY IT? A fan of the HP12C with some spare cash on hand would probably grab a HP12cPAE off the retail shelf without thinking too hard. From my personal experience, new users to the HP12C series would find that the HP12C actually glows on you and grows with you once you are familar with it.

WOULD IT BECOME A COLLECTOR'S ITEM? Savvy consumers should know that the HP12cPAE is mass produced and sold worldwide as a mainstream consumer product. IMHO, the HP12cPAE would have to be made with real titanium, platinum or gold plated parts and engraved with unique serial numbers if it were to qualify as a rare collector's item. Only time and actual HP sales quantity would determine if any collector-speculator would profit from an auction sale of a new and sealed HP12cPAE on e-Bay.

WOULD I RECOMMEND IT? Yes, definitely. By improving the on the HP12C, HP has again demonstrated in the HP12cPAE (and HP12cP version 2.0) that with the right effort even a good product design can be improved upon at the matured stage of its product life cycle. Now, there is a real rival for the much loved classic HP12C, and it is no other than its successor,the HP12cPAE. Realistically,it is difficult to keep improving a near perfect product such as the iconic HP12C. Judging by the high industry standard it has set, the HP12C would probably celebrate its 50th anniversary in 2031.

Thank you for reading my enduser review, hope it is useful to you.

138 of 146 found the following review helpful:

I still prefer the regular 12CApr 24, 2007
By Craig
I have been using the HP12C for about 20 of the 25 years it has been around. I love the calculator, and this is why I have used it for so long. I would recommend a purchase of an HP 12C to everyone. I also recommend purchasing the HP 12C instead of this anniversary edition. I only have a couple reasons for this.

1) The keys of the anniversary edition do not respond as well as on the regular HP 12C. For example, when I turn on the anniversary edition, I have to check to make sure it actually turns on.

2) The quality of the anniversary edition is just not on par with the regular HP 12C. For example, the screen on the anniversay edition is already getting scratched up. I have a twenty year old and a five year old HP 12C, and neither of them has any scratches on the screen. Also the keys are just not as solid and they don't have the nice tactile feel of the regular HP 12C. The anniversary edition just feels cheap.

So I would recommend skipping the anniversary edition for the regular HP 12C.

64 of 66 found the following review helpful:

Nice, overall, but PLEASE HP bring back the quality!Dec 22, 2007
By Pruitt Hall
There's been many a good review on this calculator previously on Amazon so I won't delve too deeply into what has already been said. I will, however, off a few opinions that are gleaned fromm over two decades worth of using financial calculators, so I hope someone finds this interesting.

First, there are only three 'true' manufacturers of financial calculators: HP, Texas Instruments and Calculated Industries. Well, four if you count everyone else. But, HP & TI own the student and financial market. TI's calculators use the Algebraic Operating System (AOS) and HP uses RPN (Reverse Polish Notation) and some (the HP-12c platinum reviewed here) offer both. It's a matter of personal choice; RPN is more fluid once you learn it, but AOS is easier and flows math as you were taught in school. That said, once you master RPN, you won't go back to AOS.

Secondly, and this is my big beef with ALL calculator manufacturers. Handheld calculators need TACTILE feedback; meaning, notably, that you have to both KNOW when you press a button and, also, KNOW that when you do, it registers and doesn't do something funky (i.e. NOT register or DOUBLE register). This is beyond important and frequently overlooked by engineering types designing these calculators. Face it, a financial calculator isn't mainstream and it isn't used for insignificant calculations; they're used by investment bankers, accountants, analysts, etc. and these people have to be comfortable in the fact that the buttons 'work' and work everytime.

No one, not a single manufacturer, understood this except HP. And HP understood it to the point that their products were in a class by themselves. That was until about five years ago. Then, HP moved calculator production to China and the first products, notably the HP-12C Platinum and the HP 17BII+ suffered horribly in the hands of users because the tactile response simply was awful. Read the Amazon reviews on these products to get a feel for what I'm talking about here. I have a 17BII+ (2006 production) and call attest that if you don't watch it, it will frequently not register a number. That's useless in a financial calculator.

Fortunately, HP in this latest 25th Anniversary Edition apparently listed to consumers and got 'most-of-it' right on this model. Certainly better than the HP-12C Platinum and arguably better than it's more expensive sibling, the 17BII+.

Here, in no particular order is my Good/Bad list of features:

Good

Follows typical 12C keyboard layout and convention. The 12C is THE standard in financial calculators and HP wisely left the form factor alone.

Faster than the original 12 and Platinum editions that followed. By HP's literature, almost 6x faster, but the big deal here is that it is faster than the horrible Platinum 1.0 version which suffered in TVM calculations.

Re-designed battery door. If you used an original 12C, you'll like the honking big door on this version.

VERY sweet rear labeling of functions; the metal decal attached on the back really goes a long way towards helping one with the keystroke/feature set of this calculator.

Runtime is just insanely long, which is useful since it uses non-standard batteries (CR2032's--better buy 'em now; you WON'T find them when you need them!)

Bad

Tactile response. Yes, it's better than the 17BII+ (much!) but it still isn't in the same league as the older US or Singapore produced calculators of the 1980's and 1990's. Arguably better than a 'cheapie' calculator but not what I would call 'good' by $50+ product standards. Honestly, I cannot fathom why HP won't belly to the bar on this and just spend $5.00 more and put a better keyboard on their high-end calculators. I will say this keyboard is the BEST keyboard HP has in their calculator product line, PERIOD. But that's not as big a compliment as it sounds.

Build-quality. Good. Not great, good. The thing still feels flimsy compared to the older products, plain and simple.

Case. Know what? On the web, that leather case looks very cool. In real life, it's three times bigger than the calculator and twice as hard to carry. A simple leather slip case would be nice.

Other odds and ends.

HP's manual for this baby is honestly worth the price of the calculator; maybe more. One thing I'll have to give HP is at least in this day and age of PDFs and web searches, they still give you an honest-to-goodness manual and a good one to boot. Kudos to them for that one!

As it stands, this HP 12C 25th Anniversary Edition stands as my pick of the absolute best available financial calculator on the market today. I say that because it's better built than it's bigger brother (17BII+) and offers RPN and programming and a familiar keyboard and layout.

However, I wish HP senior staff would puruse these reviews and take heart to producing a calculator with 1980's build quality and 2007 microprocessor guts. I mean honestly, I have a Blackberry with a 2GB memory card; and this thing has 28K? It runs on the 6502 processor; does that ring a bell with anyone over 40? It was the processor in the original Apple II!!!! Why not:

>Build the case out of higher quality plastic? Maybe ABS.
>Use a modern processor.
>Give us a removeable memory stick.
>Give it a USB port for programming.

That CANNOT be that big of a deal to incorporate and HP would OWN the calculator market again.

That's my .02 cents worth on the HP-12C, 25th Anniversary Edition.

21 of 21 found the following review helpful:

best modern HP12C versionApr 04, 2007
By Scott C. Locklin "Selectos nisi das mihi libellos, admittam tineas trucesque blattas!"
The HP12C is as emblematic of financial calculators as the zippo is to cigarette lighters. It is a sort of "ultimate machine" in its class. It is small, handy, robust, and it has ridiculously long battery life. Quite simply, you cannot buy a better calculator for finance than the HP12C. If you can't find an unused older "made in USA" HP12C, this is the best one you can own. In some ways, it is arguably the best one to own, as it has some improved features over the original HP12C (a version of which is also still made, believe it or not: that's how good these things are -though the modern Chinese version is inferior in construction to the old American and Brazilian versions). I'm docking it a star (it should be more like a half star) as the old versions were somewhat better made, and because the new version could have far more features without detracting from utility or functionality. For example: I'd rather have a numeric integrator and matrix math like in the old HP15C, than algebraic notation. Algebraic notation is only useful for loaning the thing to your friends, which is not something you will want to do. Also included in my one star off is the case, which is almost completely useless. It is giant! And it has a magnet in it, which could destroy your credit cards if they are rattling around in the same bag as your calculator. I do use the case, but only to let it rattle around in my briefcase with other junk; otherwise, if it had the old leather glove style case, it would go in a shirt pocket (though it also could be used to rattle around anywhere, without taking up so much space or having a magnet in it).

It is important that anyone looking to buy a 12C establish its provenance; the platinums came in three versions. The first version was garbage. The second was acceptable. The third, the platinum anniversary, is the best of the lot thus far, excepting the case.

The book is excellent as well; I've seen it touted as a useful tutorial into accounting theory in quantitative finance forums. You will probably need to read the book if you have not used an HP calculator in RPN before.

Who should buy one? Anyone who deals with finance on any level needs one of these. The legend goes, you can get 50 basis points off your loan just for showing up with this calculator.

18 of 18 found the following review helpful:

HP product research must read Amazon reviewsSep 01, 2006
By DHK
In the reviews for the HP 12c Platinum, one reviewer commented on many things. ALL BUT ONE are fixed in the new HP 12c Platinum 25th Anniversary calculator.

The one thing: The display "flash" when you input a figure into a financial register. I miss that. Probably the ONLY reason I'll keep my HP 12c "gold". That helps to "know" that the number was input into that register.

It doesn't "wobble" on the desk (unlike my "gold). You can see the orange/red text on the BLACK background (versus the silver). When you shake the calculator, the keys don't rattle as well (versus the gold). Oh, and I prefer the "matte" plastic keys over the somewhat shinier keys of the gold.

It's a great looking calculator. REAL black with nice-looking silver accents. It's got a nice "Star Wars" look.

What I don't understand is why the different case? This new case is not slim and not able to fit into certain pockets of my briefcase. And what's up with the clear ID pocket on the back side of it? I know the 12c was originally touted as a "financial powerhouse in a pocket-size unit", but I don't think people actually carry them in their pockets??? Purses and briefcases, sure, but it's not a substitute wallet. It's a good thing I still have the case to my "gold". It's a better fit.

At least HP seems to be committed to good product research and the input of their product reviewers.

BTW, those extra 10 "functions" over the Gold must be the way to calculate things using ALGEBRAIC notation versus RPN; because I don't see any real differences between the functionality of either calculator.

*****UPDATE 08/03/2007*****

Since I reviewed the Platinum Anniversary edition of the HP 12c, I had acquired a "classic" HP12c made in 1984 made in USA. In comparison to the "Made in USA" 12c, the anniversary one feels cheaper somehow. The keys sound hollow compared to the tank of the older 12c. The slightest touch to the USA-12c will turn on the calculator, while the same touch to the Anniversary 12c is spotty at best. The display on the Anniversary 12c has a "greener" tint to it compared to the original. And I STILL love seeing the display "flash" with each input. The keys are "injection molded", but my USA-12c keys were actually HP15c keys painted over for the 12c. The keys don't rattle when the calculator is shaken and it sits evenly on my deak with no "wobble."

I still like the Anniversary edition of the 12c, because of the processing speed. (I have very little need for Algebraic entry, the back-space key or "undo" keys. They're not as easy to use as the CLX key is.) I wouldn't want to attempt any exam (like the CFP or CFA exams) with the slower 12c, but I don't think I'll ever give up my "Made in USA" 12c for daily work now that I know what a jewel it really is.

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